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Shaw Walters: ‘We’re Going to Automate All of the Jobs’

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Someday you’ll be out of a job. So will I, so will your neighbor, so will your best friend, and so will all of your family. All of our jobs will be automated, thanks to AI. This is the prediction of Shaw Walters (who in Web3 style typically just goes by “Shaw”), founder of Eliza Labs, and creator of ElizaOS.

“We’re going to automate all of the jobs. Like, all of the jobs are going to be automated,” says Shaw. “There aren’t going to be any jobs. And there shouldn’t be, because any work that I can get a robot to do is beneath me. And I think we will look back on this time like we look back on slavery. Like, ‘What the fuck were we doing?’”

Onstage at the AI Summit at Consensus 2025, Shaw will unpack this theory in a keynote titled, “How AI Agents and Humanoid Robots will Reshape Society…and Why Crypto is the Key.” Here he gives a quick sneak peek.

Interview has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity.

What excites you the most about AI Agents?

Personally, this is a sort of selfish quest. I don’t like sitting at my desk all day with my shoulders rounding, becoming this troll who’s coding all day.

What I want to do is to pace around and tell my agents to do things and code for me. Coding has gotten to the point where I have another window up, and I’m just coding with Gemini in Cursor. I just start speaking and saying, “Hey, this is what I want. I want you to change this, this, and this,” and it just starts going.

And why can’t that just be embodied? Why can’t I just be walking down the street talking to my agent and it’s writing my code for me? Why do I have to be sitting here glued to this desk? So I really want to unbox the user interface personally for myself, and have my agent with me everywhere I go. I can just call it if I have an idea. It answers my email.

What do you think will be the first killer use case of agents that really goes mainstream?

Well, definitely coding. It’s already the first case.

Fair. But what about for normies, for non-coders?

Well for us [at Eliza], it’s social agents. And then I run a remote team and DAO community, right? We have 20 people that come to work every day and develop code. I have a group chat right now of eight people. And we have 20 channels on Discord and we have a Telegram. So we have all this communication happening in all these places, and we have these very obvious problems everyone else has. I don’t know what’s going on in most of the chats. I don’t have time to read most of it.

I’d love if it was just summarized for me. They should be like, «Hey, what has this guy been working on right now?» And it’s like, «Oh, he worked on this. He answered this.» Great. So we have a bot that’s doing just that thing. It checks in with every single employee every day and gets a [status update] from them. And it’s tracking every single chat and all of our digital spaces and summarizes everything.

Why, in your mind, is crypto crucial to this larger vision of yours of AI Agents? Why is Web3 necessary?

I think it’s very obvious that it’s hard for me to give an agent a PayPal account. But I can just spin up a wallet for this agent and that agent. I could build a game where I’m like, «I need 10,000 wallets.» Because what I’m really doing is giving an agent the ability to prove that it is itself with a cryptographic signing tool, just like I’m giving any other user. So agents are just proxies for other users and they get the same benefits that any other user does.

But I think that there’s a bigger question here of like why crypto at all? And I think the reason is because I think that we should be able to create our own money. It’s not a power that we should necessarily give to states, although states have the ability to enforce it with force. So there’s a bigger question of, what’s the war we’re fighting here?

This is something that I’ll be sharing in my Consensus talk. We’re going to automate all of the jobs. Like, all of the jobs are going to be automated. There aren’t going to be any jobs. And there shouldn’t be, because any work that I can get a robot to do is beneath me. And I think we will look back on this time like we look back on slavery. Like, «What the fuck were we doing?”

We were making everybody work for dollars with all of their time. That’s crazy to me. They should have been pursuing their passions. They should have been asking, “Why are we here and what are we doing?” They should have been forming their own basis of spirituality instead of just going to work every day. And so, in that reality, well, there’s a big problem.

I can think of a few…

If there’s no jobs, then we have no money. But actually none of the rich people in our country have jobs. How do they make money? They’re investing. And I think this is the world we have to live in, where we’re all investors, and nobody’s a worker. It’s just insane to me that we live in a world where all the rich people don’t work, and yet we think that’s the way to getting rich.

I’m trying to visualize this. It’s wild to imagine a world where no one has jobs, and all the work is beneath us.

It’s inevitable.

Are we writing poetry all day? How are we filling our time? What does humanity look like?

Okay, so let’s say you somehow received an airdrop that you put into a project, and now you have something like $80 million worth of value. What would you do? What’s your next move?

I see where you’re going with this. So the idea is that you think about what your passions are, and how you’d spend your time if you had unlimited money? And then that’s what you’d be doing in this world where all the jobs are automated.

Yeah. I would be at my computer working on AGI. I would be working on that all day.

Let’s go there now. What’s your guess of when we get to AGI, or if we get to AGI?

What is AGI?

[Both laugh.]

So, does AGI to you imply sentience?

Well, my favorite coined term was that AGI is the thing that computers can’t do yet. How about that?

It’s a bit of Zeno’s Paradox, right? It will forever be outside of its grasp.

Yes, we have normalized the fact that, like, I can talk to ChatGPT on voice in my phone and get instant answers to almost anything. Like, we’re sitting here having ChatGPT do tarot readings, and give us answers to how “Magic: the Gathering” works.

Wild times! Thanks Shaw, this was fun. See you in Toronto. Can’t wait for your talk.

Jeff Wilser will host the AI Summit at Consensus 2025, and is host of The People’s AI: The Decentralized AI Podcast.

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Solana Surges 8% Despite Global Macro Tensions. Can It Hit $155 in Short-Term?

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Geopolitical tensions and evolving trade policies continue to shape cryptocurrency markets, with Solana emerging as a focal point amid global economic uncertainty.

SOL has shown impressive recovery strength, climbing 8% from its April 30 low of $140 to around $152, with daily trading volume jumping 35% over 24 hours. This resilience comes as US-China trade relations deteriorate, creating ripple effects across traditional and digital asset markets.

The move comes as the broader market gauge CoinDesk 20 Index, climbed about 4% on Thursday.

Technical Analysis Highlights

  • SOL recovered from a significant 7.4% correction on April 30, dropping from 148.03 to 140.63 before reaching new period highs at 152.69.
  • Overall trading range of 12.04 points (8.3%) showcases volatility, with strong support established at 140.65.
  • Volume analysis reveals heightened trading during the correction (2.4M+ volume) followed by sustained buying interest during recovery.
  • Recent price action forms an ascending channel with resistance at 152.50, while the 148.50-149.50 zone serves as a key support level, according to CoinDesk Research’s technical analysis data.
  • Bullish momentum appears sustainable with higher lows forming, suggesting potential continuation toward the 155.00 psychological level.
  • In the last 100 minutes, SOL experienced significant volatility, dropping sharply from 152.38 to a low of 150.74 before staging a V-shaped recovery to 152.49.
  • Key support established at 151.10, where substantial buying volume (44K+) emerged.
  • A mid-session rally from 151.22 to 152.60 coincided with the highest volume spike (126K at 14:00), indicating strong institutional interest.
  • The short-term ascending channel was established with resistance at 152.68 and support at 152.32.
  • The 152.45-152.50 zone now serves as immediate resistance that could determine near-term direction.

Disclaimer: This article was generated with AI tools and reviewed by our editorial team to ensure accuracy and adherence to our standards. For more information, see CoinDesk’s full AI Policy. This article may include information from external sources, which are listed below when applicable.

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Movement Token Slumps 14% as Coinbase Suspends Trading

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Coinbase will suspend trading of Movement’s MOVE token, citing «recent reviews,» following a CoinDesk investigation into market-making deals that experts said incentivized price manipulation.

The token fell more than 13% on the trading suspension news, while the broader market gauge CoinDesk 20 Index rose 4.4%.

Movement Labs is currently investigating how a market maker may have gained access to a significant number of its tokens, which were then dumped on retail investors, causing its price to tank. The market maker, Web3Port, appears in contracts previously reported by CoinDesk.

According to the CoinDesk report, Movement Labs co-founder Cooper Scanlon told employees last month that the firm was investigating how Rentech, which Movement believed was a subsidiary of Web3Port, got a hold of over 5% of Web3Port’s MOVE tokens.

According to contracts obtained by CoinDesk, Rentech had the ability to liquidate all of its tokens under certain circumstances, which experts said could have created an incentive for the firm to increase the token’s value.

Crypto exchange Binance later banned Web3Port, the market-maker, after $38 million in MOVE tokens in wallets tied to Web3Port were liquidated following MOVE’s exchange debut.

Coinbase did not share many details about the trading suspension, just announcing that it would do so on May 15 by 2:00 p.m. Pacific Time (21:00 UTC).

Coinbase said it has already switched its order books to «limit-only mode» for MOVE tokens, meaning trades will only be executed at certain prices, rather than a token’s spot price.

Read more: Inside Movement’s Token-Dump Scandal: Secret Contracts, Shadow Advisers and Hidden Middlemen

UPDATE (May 1, 2025, 17:18 UTC): Adds additional context.

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ATOM Surges More Than 4% With Broader Market as Cosmos Ecosystem Attracts Institutions

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The Cosmos ecosystem is gaining significant institutional attention amid broader market volatility, with ATOM showing remarkable resilience after recovering from a drop to $4.23 on April 30th to stabilize above $4.38.

The price of ATOM rose more than 4% in the last 24 hours, while the broader market gauge CoinDesk 20 Index climbed nearly the same amount.

This recovery comes as Canary Capital files for the first spot Sei ETF built on Cosmos SDK, featuring staking capabilities that could set a precedent for similar products across the ecosystem.

Meanwhile, Figure’s Provenance blockchain, also built with Cosmos SDK, has emerged as the leader in tokenized private credit with $9.9 billion in active loans, validating BlackRock CEO Larry Fink’s vision that «every asset can be tokenized.»

Technical Analysis: ATOM’s Recovery Pattern

  • ATOM-USD has demonstrated remarkable resilience over the analyzed period, recovering from a significant drop to $4.23 on April 30th to stabilize above $4.38 by May 1st.
  • The overall range of $0.31 (6.9%) reflects moderate volatility, with strong support established at $4.30-$4.32, according to CoinDesk Research’s technical analysis data.
  • Recent price action shows a developing uptrend with higher lows forming since April 30th, accompanied by increasing volume during recovery phases.
  • The Fibonacci retracement from the April 29th high suggests the current price has reclaimed the 61.8% level, with resistance at $4.41-$4.42 representing the next significant hurdle before potential continuation toward previous highs.
  • ATOM-USD has shown significant volatility in the last 100 minutes, experiencing a sharp decline from $4.41 to a low of $4.35 before staging a recovery to $4.38.
  • The price action formed a V-shaped pattern, with strong buying emerging at the $4.35-$4.36 support zone. This was accompanied by notably higher trading volumes during both the selloff (peaking at 103,987 units at 14:00) and subsequent recovery.
  • Recent price movement has established a short-term uptrend with higher lows since 13:57, with the current price consolidating near $4.38-$4.39, suggesting stabilization after the earlier volatility and potential for continued upward momentum if the $4.39 resistance level can be breached.

Disclaimer: Parts of this article were generated with the assistance from AI tools and reviewed by our editorial team to ensure accuracy and adherence to our standards. For more information, see CoinDesk’s full AI Policy.

References:

  1. Bitcoinist, «Bitcoin Nears Golden Cross as MVRV Ratio Builds Momentum – Is a Breakout Coming?«, published April 7, 2025.
  2. Bitcoinist, «Best Presales to Buy as Institutional Flows Return to Bitcoin, Says BlackRock«, published April 7, 2025.
  3. Blockworks, «How Private Credit Tokenization Is Leading the Race in Tokenization«, published April 30, 2025.
  4. CryptoNews, «Canary Capital Files for First Spot Sei ETF in US, Includes Staking Component«, published April 24, 2025.
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